The following transcript was delivered by a essence/spirit personality known as Elias, who is no longer living but who delivers the information via an energy exchange with a woman named Mary Ennis, or what is more commonly known as ‘channelling’.  Refer to the glossary of Terms link provided at the top of this page.

     To view a video of Elias introducing himself click on the following link,  https://www.davidandelias.org/home

 

The following is a small excerpt taken from chapter 16, of my book, 'A TIME OF CHANGE, THE SHIFT IN CONSCIOUSNESS'

All of our lives, that we believe happens as a result of coming back time and time again 'reincarnation' are all happening all at the same time as this one is, therefore, according to Elias, what is the purpose of having to come back?  

 

Chapter 16.   Karma

Q: So what about karma? There are a lot of people in the world today who believe in karma — that you reap what you sow, “what goes round comes around,” cause and effect … that kind of thing.

 

ELIAS: This is a very common belief system within your reality presently. As you have moved into this [21st) century and the beginning throes of your shift in consciousness, you have developed new belief systems which suggest to you alternates for those religious belief systems that you have held for many centuries.  You view these to be new enlightened belief systems, although you do not believe that they ARE belief systems.

In actuality, there is no karma. There is no moving from one focus to another focus. There is no repaying of debt. There is no consequence for your action within one focus. The only consequence that occurs within any focus for action incurred is that consequence that you draw to yourself for your own information within one particular focus.

 

All focuses are simultaneous. Therefore, you are not reborn. You are a new creation in yourself, and shall never be recreated into another creation. You may create an aspect of yourself that shall continue within physical focus, but it shall be its own creation and it shall also be a new creation. You are not used parts!  (Laughter) You are continuously creating anew.

 

YOU are YOU. And you, as a focus of essence, experience within a physical focus, and in completing your experience within a physical focus shall move beyond physical focus and continue within your exploration of self within other areas. You may choose to be exploring another physical focus within another dimension, but you shall not repeat this physical focus within this dimension, for this would be pointless.

 

You have already experienced, within your countless amounts of counterparts and focuses within this dimension, all that you need be experiencing within this dimension. Therefore, you hold wondrous areas to be exploring within consciousness beyond this one particular dimension and focus.

 

There is no element that you need be repaying or holding an element of cause and effect within this particular dimension. It is merely one focus of your essence, and in this you manifest to experience, to explore. There is no right and wrong within consciousness. All is an experience. Therefore, what need be repaid? It is merely your own belief systems that dictate to you that you hold karmic debt. (#249)

 

You think of karma as cause and effect. You think of moving through experiences, and repaying for those experiences that you have created negatively. There is no negative! It is merely your belief system that there is negative. This is not to say that you do not in actuality create negative elements within your reality, for you project energy into the creation of these elements. If you are believing in evil destructive devils, you shall project energy into their creation and they shall be reality! (#193)

 

You do draw to yourselves experiences in your expressions that what you set forth you shall also draw to yourself, but this is directly dictated and created by your belief in this action of karma. It is not a natural function of essence or of consciousness.

 

Experiences are experiences. They are not right or wrong or good or bad, and there is no cause and effect. It is all a choice of what YOU choose to be creating.

 

You shall draw to yourself in conjunction with your belief systems, not that it is dictated by the universe or the cosmos or all of consciousness that this is what you deserve, for there is no measurement of what you deserve. You already are! (#454)

 

Q: I was understanding that karma was just simply action — good, bad, whatever — just action. If I was to throw this pen, it has to land. It’s just action and the effect of that action, not necessarily good, bad, payment, repayment.

 

ELIAS: This also is cause and effect. If you are to throw your pen, you hold an expectation that it must land.

 

Q: Exactly.

 

ELIAS: Therefore, it does; for within mass belief systems, you hold expectations of cause and effect. This is not truth. This is merely belief systems within your particular dimension.

 

Q: But since it is a belief system, it really makes it part of our reality since we all believe in it.

 

ELIAS: Yes. It IS your reality, and you shall throw your pen and it shall fall.

 

Q: So that doesn’t mean that karma does not exist totally. It means that we choose to have it exist in our reality. So there is, no matter whatever we do ... if say that karma is simply action, then there is action and reaction in our dimension because we choose it to be there, not that it doesn’t exist totally.

 

ELIAS: Because you CHOOSE it to be there.

 

Q: Yeah, but as a group consciousness, we all choose it to be there.

 

ELIAS: Quite. I express to you these elements, these truths, that you may expand your awareness, and that you may view that you hold belief systems but you are not bound by your belief systems, and that you may move outside of these belief systems and alter your present reality. I express this to you for the reason that you ARE participating within the action of your shift in consciousness, and within your future time period your reality shall be completely altered and these belief systems shall not hold you as they do presently. Your reality shall be executed differently. You shall throw your pen, and if you are not so choosing, it shall not....

 

Q: Land.

 

ELIAS: Correct. 

 

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The following is from session #454

 

NATHAN: I guess the last question I do have is, can you give me any information about ... when I was two months old, I had a bone infection, and I’m wondering if this is something that is karmically affecting me from another life, or if in fact it is from this life, something I need to release or let go of in order for this to heal.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you initially:

Is this an affectingness karmically?  No!  I shall express quite intently, you may be experiencing affects within energy of other focuses, but they are not — NOT — expressed in the identification of what you term to be karma.  This is unequivocally a belief system!

This is a belief system that reinforces your involvement and your identification and your beliefs in duplicity.  This....

NATHAN:  In being a victim.

ELIAS:  It offers you a tremendous reinforcement of cause and effect, of duplicity, in that you shall reap what you sow.  What you put forth, you shall also acquire.  If you are offering the expression of the righteous, you shall be creating this within yourself and you shall reap your rewards.  If you are creating negativity and you are harmful to other individuals, you shall also reap the consequences.

THIS is the identification of the belief system of karma, and I may not express to you strongly enough that this is NOT in reality what you create within this dimension or any dimension or any expression of essence!

You do draw to yourselves experiences in your expressions that what you set forth you shall also draw to yourself, but this is directly dictated and created by your belief in this action of karma.  It is not a natural function of essence or of consciousness.

Experiences are experiences.  They are not right or wrong or good or bad, and there is no cause and effect.  It is all a choice of what YOU choose to be creating.

You shall draw to yourself in conjunction with your belief systems, not that it is dictated by the universe or the cosmos or all of consciousness that this is what you deserve, for there is no measurement of what you deserve.  You already are!  Therefore....

NATHAN:  I’ve been floating on that one for a while, that belief system.  I think initially I didn’t believe in karma, but then I’ve had so many encounters with or information from other people I’ve talked with that are so....

ELIAS:  It is a VERY strong belief system within your physical dimension.  Many, many, many individuals hold very strongly to this belief system and reinforce it continuously in their creations of drawing to themselves events and circumstances that validate this to them, but THEY are creating this and it is THEIR choice.  It is NOT cause and effect that is beyond their control and inflicted upon them OR rewarded to them.

NATHAN:  Right.  It is choice.  It’s funny ‘cause I know that, but how could I still hold the belief system of that?  It’s like I’m missing a few steps, and I catch myself.  It’s just cleaning out the closet, so to speak, you know?

ELIAS:  It is the familiar and the unfamiliar — the recognition of the belief system that has been held for much time framework and the movement into the unfamiliar and the new, recognizing that you hold these belief systems and this is neither good or bad, and you shall continue to hold these belief systems but they need not be affecting of you.  There IS a difference.

In this, you have not been karmically affected, but you HAVE created in this focus a physical affectingness, that you may offer to yourself an objective challenge.

NATHAN:  I see.  More or less, it’s mind over matter.  I can heal myself, and I can prove it to myself because I actually have some sort of ailment that I can prove to myself that I can heal myself.

ELIAS:  You may VALIDATE to yourself that you hold the ability to be altering ANY element of your reality, no matter how absolute it appears, for within....

NATHAN:  That’s the hardest thing, you know!

ELIAS:  Quite!  And within your reality, THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES.  I have been expressing this for much time framework, but individuals do not hear.  There are no absolutes!  You THINK there are absolutes.

NATHAN:  That’s what gives us comfort.

ELIAS:  Quite.  This offers you a ...

NATHAN:  I’m glad there’s no absolutes! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  ... feeling of security and solidity.

But in actuality, there are no absolutes, and there is NO THING within your reality that you may not alter if you are so choosing, even bone.

I shall express to you, you may inquire to Michael.  You have asked for the identification of a book.  Inquire to Michael.  Express the terms to Michael of altering of a bone, and he shall identify and hold a remembrance of a book that he may offer to you, and you may view that within your physical reality, it is merely a choice, and you hold the ability to be altering ANY element in your reality, no matter how solid or how absolute it may appear to you.  This is merely a challenge that you have offered to yourself to validate to yourself all of the abilities that you hold.

NATHAN:  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome, my friend.  I offer to you great affection and encouraging energy to be continuing upon your quest, you and all of your young Sumafi warriors, (chuckling) within your expression of our shift and your quest for information and what you term to be truth. (Chuckling)

To you this day, I offer an influx of blue energy that you may hold with you — not white! (Chuckling)

NATHAN:  Is it those little blue jays that fly by my window?

ELIAS:  HA HA HA!  And I shall continue my interaction with you, and we shall meet again!

NATHAN:  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  To you this day, in great lovingness, I bid adieu.

Elias departs at 2:09 PM.

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